Matty Healy’s aunt implies Taylor Swift’s ‘TTPD’ tracks don’t tell full story about romance: We know ‘more about what went on’

One of Matty Healy’s relatives has come to his defense.

As fans speculated that several of Taylor Swift’s songs from her brand new album, “The Tortured Poets Department,” referenced her brief romance with Healy — including a song titled “The Smallest Man” — his aunt Debbie Dedes argued there is much more to the picture than what Swift shared.

“Nothing surprises him any more,” she told the Daily Mail Saturday. “He will not be surprised by the song. Him and her know what went on.”

Matty Healy posing
Matty Healy’s aunt came to his defense in an interview with the Daily Mail following the release of Taylor Swift’s “The Tortured Poets Department.”Getty Images
Matty Healy posing
Several songs are thought to be about Healy and their short-lived romance.WireImage

Dedes, who is the sister of Healy’s mother, Denise Welch, added, “As my nephew, we know a bit more about what went on than has been in the press.”

She also said he is “very happy” with his current girlfriend, model Gabbriette Bechtel.

Reps for both Swift and Healy did not immediately respond to Page Six’s request for comment.

In “The Smallest Man,” Swift, 34, sang about a man in a Jehovah’s Witness suit whom she accuses of “rusting” her “sparkling summer.”

Matty Healy walking
Specifically, his aunt Debbie Dedes said “he will not be surprised by” her songs.Alessandro Bremec/ipa-agency.net/Shutterstock
Matty Healy performing
“As my nephew,” she added, “we know a bit more about what went on than has been in the press.”Getty Images

Healy, the frontman of The 1975, wears a signature black suit on stage during most of his performances, which arguably resembles an outfit worn by someone who follows the religion.

The pair dated between May and June 2023, right as summer kicked off. The “Maroon” crooner notably received a great deal of backlash for her romance with Healy — which they never confirmed — due to his past racist remarks about her pal rapper Ice Spice and his general outlandish comments.

The 14-time Grammy winner seemingly referenced people telling her to stay away from someone she desires in “But Daddy I Love Him” and she also explored similar emotions in “I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can).”

Taylor Swift and Matty Healy walking
Swift and Healy are thought to have dated between May and June 2023.GC Images
Taylor Swift and Matty Healy walking
They are rumored to have had a fling about a decade prior.TheImageDirect.com

In “The Smallest Man,” Swift also sang about a person trying to “buy some pills from a friend of friends” of hers. The 35-year-old musician has been open about his struggles with substance abuse.

The “The Smallest Man” may also reference Healy’s height. He previously complained that he is “sick to f–king death” of people speculating about how tall he is, despite being 5 foot 10 inches.


The album’s title track, “The Tortured Poets Department,” also seems to allude to Healy’s love of typewriters, which he explained in a past interview with GQ.

Taylor Swift performing
Swift seemingly made several references about Healy in “The Smallest Man,” including his height and his past substance abuse struggles.Getty Images for TAS Rights Management
Taylor Swift performing
She also sang about his love for typewriters in the album’s title track, “The Tortured Poets Department.”Getty Images for TAS Rights Management
Taylor Swift performing
The Grammy winner’s new songs “The Black Dog,” “But Daddy I Love Him” and “I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)” are also thought to be inspired by their romance.Getty Images for TAS Rights Management
"Tortured Poets Department" promo shot
Swift released “TTPD,” a double album, on Friday.Instagram/@taylorswift

“You left your typewriter at my apartment / Straight from the Tortured Poets Department / I think some things I never say / Like, ‘Who uses typewriters anyway?” Swift questions in the song.

When the billionaire pop star and Healy broke up last June, an insider told Entertainment Tonight they were both “extremely busy” and “not really compatible with each other.”

Healy was first linked to Bechtel last September when they were seen locking lips during a PDA-filled stroll around New York City.

Matt Healy and Gabbriette Bechtel
Healy is currently dating model Gabbriette Bechtel.TheImageDirect.com
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce

Meanwhile, Swift has since moved on with NFL star Travis Kelce, whom she went public with last September.